||Welcome to Joel's Trumpet!
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple, and absolutely free, so please, join our community today!
"This part of the Prophecy being therefore not yet fulfilled, I shall not attempt a particular interpretation of it, but content myself with observing, that as the seventy and the sixty two weeks were Jewish weeks, ending with sabbatical years; so the seven weeks are the compass of a Jubilee, and begin and end with actions proper for a Jubilee, and of the highest nature for which a Jubilee can be kept: and that since the commandment to return and to build Jerusalem, precedes the Messiah the Prince 49 years; it may perhaps come forth not from the Jews themselves, but from some other kingdom friendly to them, and precede their return from captivity, and give occasion to it." Observations chapter X
http://www.preteristarchive.com/Books/1 ... tions.html
"The antient solar years of the eastern nations consisted of 12 months, and every month of 30 days: and hence came the division of a circle into 360 degrees. This year seems to be used by Moses in his history of the Flood, and by John in the Apocalypse, where a time, times and half a time, 42 months and 1260 days, are put equipollent."
"All nations, before the just length of the solar year was known, reckoned months by the course of the moon, and years by the return of winter and summer, spring and autumn; and in making calendars for their festivals, they reckoned thirty days to a lunar month, and twelve lunar months to a year, taking the nearest round numbers, whence came the division of the ecliptic into 360 degrees."
LPZho wrote:No, no, no, look here: http://jesusmessiah.wordpress.com/2008/ ... 2014-2015/.
The tetrads follow the events, except for the one moon in april 67. They follow, they come after.
LPZho wrote:The website with 2015 in it shows the tetrads follow the events.
April 13, 1949 - The Feast of Passover - total lunar eclipse ("blood red moon")
July 20, 1949 - Israel–Syria Mixed Armistice Commission (ISMAC) signed.
October 7, 1949 - The Feast of Ingathering - total lunar eclipse ("blood red moon")
January 4, 1950 - Israeli Prime Minister Ben Gurion declares Jerusalem Israel’s capital city in spite of international protests, ignoring the fact that the eastern part of the city has been annexed by Jordan after the end of the Israeli-Arab War of 1949. He also defies the United Nations’ resolution of 29 November 1947 whereby the Holy City of three world religions is supposed to be placed under UN administration.
January 23, 1950 - The Israeli Parliament, the Knesset, declares Jerusalem the country’s capital city. Nevertheless, many nations, the USA among them, establish their embassies in Tel Aviv, even though the Israeli Foreign Ministry has also been located in Jerusalem since 1953. It is not until the 1967 Six Day War that all of Jerusalem will come under Israeli control, a fact which changed little about its controversial status in international affairs.
April 2, 1950 - The Feast of Passover - total lunar eclipse ("blood red moon")
May 25 , 1950 - Tripartite Declaration issued by the United States, Great Britain and France.
September 26, 1950 - The Feast of Ingathering - total lunar eclipse ("blood red moon")
April 24, 1967 - The Feast of Passover - total lunar eclipse ("blood red moon")
June 5-10, 1967 - Six Day War
June 7, 1967 - IDF paratroopers advance through the Old City toward the Temple Mount and the Western Wall, bringing Jerusalem’s holiest site under Jewish control for the first time in 2000 years.
At 8:30 in the morning on June 7 the paratroopers therefore launched a three-pronged assault – one battalion attacked August Victoria Hill from Israeli-held Mount Scopus, another battalion attacked August Victoria by climbing up the valley between it and the Old City, and a third battalion, led by Gur himself drove around the Old City walls to break into the city via St. Stephen’s Gate. Arriving at the gate, Gur’s halftrack plowed through and into the Old City. Gur’s two other battalions, their missions complete, followed him in, where they found little resistance. Gur himself made for the holiest site in Judaism, the Temple Mount, where the biblical Jewish temples stood. When he got there he famously radioed to his commanders, "The Temple Mount is in our hands."
June 27, 1967 - The Israeli Knesset extends Israel’s legal and administrative jurisdiction to all of Jerusalem, and expands the city’s municipal borders.
October 18, 1967 - The Feast of Ingathering - total lunar eclipse ("blood red moon")
November 22, 1967 - United Nations Security Council Resolution 242
April 13, 1968 - The Feast of Passover - total lunar eclipse ("blood red moon")
May 1, 1968, Israeli ambassador to the UN expressed Israel's position to the Security Council: "My government has indicated its acceptance of the Security Council resolution for the promotion of agreement on the establishment of a just and lasting peace. I am also authorized to reaffirm that we are willing to seek agreement with each Arab State on all matters included in that resolution."
October 6, 1968 - The Feast of Ingathering - total lunar eclipse ("blood red moon")
The comet Ison is coming this fall, 2013. So this year is when I believe the end arrives, before the comet.
I think the rebirth of Israel the more likely event to be associated with the tetrad that followed. It is far more significant than the assertion of Jerusalem as the capital, the city being covered by the ensuing tetrad.
And only one moon nips in before the old city was regained in 1967, so the vast bulk of the period of the tetrad comes after.
While Isaac Newton's take may be compelling, that the time between the recapture of Jerusalem and the day of atonement at the end of this tetrad should be a jubilee cycle isn't surprising, thus are the notches on God's timepiece. Again, it may be compelling support of Newton's thesis, but its also just about the most likely time period one might expect regardless.
Perhaps Yom kippur 2015 could be the day expressed in Zechariah:
 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;
 The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart;
 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.
Perhaps all the nations will go up to Jerusalem for the first time under the last blood moon on the feast of tabernacles in 2015:
 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
When you say "the end arrives before the comet" exactly what are you refering to if you don't mind me asking.
Well, you've actually caught me a little off guard with your question. I do realize that 2028 is close to the 2000-year anniversary of Yeshua's 1st Coming, so that's another time period that would bear close watching if the 2nd Coming hasn't happened by that time, but beyond that I don't really have anything concrete about that time frame. Could you clarify what you mean by the "70-80 years issue"?westoncromwell wrote:Many thanks Frank for your clear and concise answer. Could you elucidate on the 1948 plus 70-80 years issue. I imagine this is and open and shut case that all will be fulfilled by 2028 at the very latest (1948 plus 80) or is there more to it than meets the eye?
Oh, OK, thanks, Willard. If that's true, then from reading Psalm 90 (it's been a while, I'll admit), the 70-80 years comes across as simply referring to the lifespan of our bodies. True, Moses lived to 120, but the account at the end of Deuteronomy reads as if it was unusual by that time. The days of 900+-year lifespans were long gone after the Earth's environment was ransacked by the Flood.ROCK SOLID wrote:Likely a Ref to Ps 90:10
I don't know anywhere near enough about it to say one way or the other with any strong certainty. I am of the personal opinion, however, that Yeshua's remark that "this generation will not pass away..." was in reference to the Temple's destruction. Don't forget, the four disciples asked Him three questions at Matthew 24:3, the first of which was when the Temple would be destroyed as Yeshua prophesied in verse 2. Yeshua's answers to the three questions are scattered throughout Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21, so there has to be a certain about of process-of-elimination in figuring out how to sort it all out. Since the generation alive at the time most certainly was (mostly) still alive at the time of the Temple's destruction, it just seems reasonable that "this generation will not pass away" was in reference to that event.ROCK SOLID wrote:I have often wondered (thinking out loud) if there may not be a connection with Ps 90:10 and the re-claiming of temple mount in 1967 - the generation that took the mount that day have for a large part died out - but we still have a few like Peres and Sharon hanging in there from the war of Independence - what I am saying is maybe because the one eyed Jack (Dayan) gave control of temple mount back to the Waqif God is in a way repeating the 40 year delay for the bad spy report we seen in the Exodus by having them die off before the tribulation or the millennium comes about
Jos 5:6 The Israelites had moved about in the desert forty years until all the men who were of military age when they left Egypt had died, since they had not obeyed the LORD. For the LORD had sworn to them that they would not see the land that he had solemnly promised their fathers to give us, a land flowing with milk and honey
Nu 1:3 You and Aaron are to number by their divisions all the men in Israel twenty years old or more who are able to serve in the army
Users browsing this forum: FactFinderFrank and 0 guests