joelstrumpet

I thought this was pretty bizarre, every time I open up the forum there's an advert for this free booklet from none other than the Restored Church of God. Doesn't this group ever go away?

For those of you who are unfamiliar with the World Wide Church of God check out this wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldwide_Church_of_God#WCG_teachings_under_Herbert_Armstrong
Their beliefs are very similar to certain beliefs which have dominated this forum of late regarding Judaizing of the Christian church. While other beliefs of theirs are outright heretical!

Two great Beings, God the Father and the Word make up the God family. The Holy Spirit, the power and mind of God, was an impersonal force or energy that could be given by God to dwell in those people he called into the Church.

It just seems odd that an advertisement for a non-Christian site should be on display every time the site is opened up. Anyone else notice this?

Just noticed there's a link underneath for feedback to google. Let's all tell them what we think!!!

Out of Christian love of course... ahh temptations temptations....

From what I recall about the WW Church of God (especially under Armstrong's strong arm lol) they were a very legalistic bunch that were 'rules' oriented and without any talk of mercy or grace. From that wrong heart, it was fear that they used for years across the world in their evangelistic efforts.
Then around 1995 or so a miraculous thing happened. The organized church as an institution publicly repented. I wish I'd saved that publication. I hadn't gotten anything in the mail from them in years and all of a sudden this issue showed up. It was a public repentance from dead works that did not represent the heart of Jesus Christ. They openly admitted it, asked for forgiveness from the Body of Christ worldwide and moved on. Many of their leaders either left or were changed one way or another that they raised up a different group of leaders.
Haven't heard anything from them in years. It was clearly the hand of God that had moved them and I believe their repentance was sincere from what I read. I dunno anything about this group in particular.

Yeah that was Joseph Tkach Jr. I believe who led the WCG church back into orthodoxy. These guys splintered off shortly after that and are sticking to their heretical roots.

Socks,

It is very simular to certain other groups. I group them all and called them "British Israel" offspring. If you will research these groups they all basically use the same scriptures and put different twists and come up with simular "false doctrine".

BE VERY LEARY OF THE WORLD WIDE CHURCH OF GOD - It's roots were formed out of heresy and have led many astray into unitarianism and legalism. Early versions explicitly denied the deity of Christ and his "once for all", atoning sacrifice.

Instead, a much better explanation of the Book of Revelations that is balanced, well thought out and logically consistent is found in the book by Robert Van Kampen, called The Sign.

The year 2000 edition was his final update, since Mr. Van Kampen died shortly after it was published. This was truly his "life's work". It is very thorough, with an extensive bibliography - so it is not just his "opinion."

It is still "Roman" and Eurocentric in its focus on the emergence of the Anti-Christ, but this plays a minor role in the book, since he dissects Revelations and other prophetic scriptures verse by verse. I am convinced that, had he lived beyond 9/11/01, he would have "seen the light" and modified his views on this subject.

But, as I've told others, The Sign is the HOW of the end-times, while Joel's book "Anti-Christ" is the WHO of the end-times. Both are very complementary and answer many heretofore unresolved questions.

Let me know if you concur....

God bless,

SAM

Yes, do beware of the World Wide Church of God.
As with all cults they have an element of truth so you swollow a lie.

Rather follow Christ and His Word not an organisation or a "Christian" leader.
Follow truth wherever it leads.

As for understanding Revelation, may I encourage all of you to take a wise addage "Every society has it's blind spots, ours as much as any other, for every Modern Book you read you should read 5 old books."

There are some good sermons worth giving an ear to .

Here are some sermons by a Dr Francis Nigel Lee on the Protestant view of Islam in Revelation and Daniel

Part 1
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.a ... 9130243446

Part 2
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.a ... 1302144031

Part 3
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.a ... 1302175838

And some others on Daniel Thessalonians and Revelation

http://www.sermonaudio.com/search.asp?s ... Only=false

Here is 62 sermons on the Book of Revelation by a Reformed Minister

http://www.sermonaudio.com/search.asp?s ... Revelation

Hope you are blessed by these.

Screaming Eagle wrote:From what I recall about the WW Church of God (especially under Armstrong's strong arm lol) they were a very legalistic bunch that were 'rules' oriented and without any talk of mercy or grace. From that wrong heart, it was fear that they used for years across the world in their evangelistic efforts.
Then around 1995 or so a miraculous thing happened. The organized church as an institution publicly repented. I wish I'd saved that publication. I hadn't gotten anything in the mail from them in years and all of a sudden this issue showed up. It was a public repentance from dead works that did not represent the heart of Jesus Christ. They openly admitted it, asked for forgiveness from the Body of Christ worldwide and moved on. Many of their leaders either left or were changed one way or another that they raised up a different group of leaders.
Haven't heard anything from them in years. It was clearly the hand of God that had moved them and I believe their repentance was sincere from what I read. I dunno anything about this group in particular.

You're right, Screaming Eagle. I can't vouch for all the doctrines of the WWC of God, but they did go through a miraculous change after Armstrong died. Here's their web link http://www.wcg.org/lit/aboutus/history.htm
It's a fascinating story.

Here's an excerpt from the above link that I referenced:

We have worked hard to inform our own members about where we went wrong — and we say “we” with all honesty, for all the current leaders of the church once believed and taught these erroneous doctrines. We have all criticized other Christians as false, deceived, children of the devil.
We have much to apologize for. We are profoundly sorry that we verbally persecuted Christians and created dissention and disunity in the body of Christ. We seek forgiveness and reconciliation.

There are many good articles on the church's website that refute the current day doctrines of Brit-Am.