joelstrumpet

So, I'm sitting around a campfire this evening talking with some friends and someone mentions the 'Club of Rome' which I'd never heard of. Turns out that this guy

H.R.H. Prince El Hassan bin Talal
President, The Club of Rome
Majlis El Hassan
Royal Palace
Amman
Jordan

is the current 'President' or whatever of this 'think tank' that seems to have direct ties to other globalist 'leaders'.

And he's a 'Prince' and he's supposedly got lineage 'ties' to Mohammad and he's been working with Sunnis and Shiites in Iraq trying to get them to work together. Lots of coincidences about a guy that seems to fly below the radar and yet is in the middle of moving and shaking thinking in the Arabic world.

I think we need to put a spiritual 'tail' on this guy and watch him closely. Any thoughts?

I found this 5 year old article that sheds a little more light on this guy. One to watch for sure. I'm not sure how this is being played out in diplomatic circles right now but it's food for thought (and prayer) anyhow.

Hasan: The Next King of
Iraq?/A - Sami Moubayed (Gulf News - UAE) The Hashemite monarchy in Iraq
was toppled in 1958, yet there remains one Hashemite with the intelligence,
ambition, and stature to serve as leader of Iraq - Prince Hasan, the former
Crown Prince of Jordan.
Prince Hasan lived a lifetime in the shadow of his brother, King
Hussein of Jordan. When the king went to the U.S. for medical treatment,
Hasan was left in charge of Jordan's day-to-day affairs. When the dying
king returned to Jordan in February 1999 and learned of Hasan's plans to
dethrone him and appoint his own son, Rashed, as crown prince, Hussein
sacked Hasan from his post and appointed Abdullah as crown prince. Upon
Hussein's death on February 9, Abdullah became king.
Hasan appeared little in public during the years 1999 to 2001, then
surprised Arabs in general and Jordanians in particular by showing up at
the Iraqi opposition conference in London in July 2002.
Hasan attended the meeting with Dr. Ahmad Al Shalabi, the
self-appointed mastermind and financier of the Iraqi movement who had been
close to the ex-crown prince when serving as Director of the Petra Bank in
Amman in the 1980s.
The Paris-based Lebanese weekly Al-Watan al-Arabi published news of a
meeting in London between Hasan and members of the Iraqi opposition early
in 2002, entitled "King Hasan Ibin Talal: King of the Hashemite Kingdom of
Iraq." If the U.S. operation against Baghdad takes place, the magazine
reported, then Hasan will become constitutional monarch.
Hasan's involvement in the Iraqi opposition means that the U.S.
administration is serious in its desire to change the regime of Saddam.
Otherwise, he wouldn't have dared take such a controversial move.
Hasan has stressed the "common roots" between the Amman Hashemites and
the Hashemites in Baghdad (his grandfather Abdullah I, founder of Jordan,
is brother of Faysal I, founder of modern Iraq).
Yet coming to Baghdad on a U.S. tank will be difficult for any
politician, even someone with Hasan's skill, intellect, and experience

I have heard of this, there is a prophecy teacher that teaches that.

I can not recall his name, he is older guy with a well trimmed gray/white beard.

I sent a link to Joel about him few months ago.

Are you thinking about Joe Van Kouvering? I think the people I was talking with had heard something from him about this guy.

Screaming Eagle wrote:Are you thinking about Joe Van Kouvering? I think the people I was talking with had heard something from him about this guy.

that is who it was

Hi everyone! Don't know if this will help you figure these guys out any better but I knew I had a book that mentioned the Club of Rome so I found it and here's what it says:

"The Club of Rome was formed in 1968 as a European 'think tank' to study various complicated issues involved in preparing the nations to accept the coming New World Order. An Italian industrialist, Aurelio Peccei, closely connected with the Bilderberg Group, brought together leaders from ten nations to study the problems. From the beginning, the Club of Rome has used its studies and reports to promote the belief that the only way out of our intractable problems is to abandon our national sovereignty to a world government. Some of their studies include "The Limits to Growth", the "RIO Report" and "Mankind at the Turning Point". Each study presents massive new world problems and offers world government as the only possible solution. Many members of the Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commission, and the Council on Foreign Relations are also members of the Club of Rome."

Sounds like a lovely bunch, I'm sure.

I read Dr. Van koevering's book. He really researched a lot on this man. I tend to stay away from books like that because there have beem many who have called various popes, Henry Kissinger, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Bill Clinton, Price Charles, King Juan Carlos of Spain, etc. I think he could be a posssibility. Even Dr. vankoevering states this his theory and not definately him. But he brings out a lot of good points.

...He's an HASHEMITE of the FATIMAH (daughter of MUHAMMAD, wife of ALI IBN TALIB, mother of HUSAIN) stock of the QURAISH Clan......

And MUHAMMAD said The MAHDI will be of the QURAISH clan.....

I am just trying to sort out all these threads leading to the kingdom of the antichrist and I hope this is the right thread to mention this. I just ran across a site on talking about the head of the Jesuits and a Black Pope that controls the entire world, banking systems of the world, EU, terrorist networks, drug cartels, domestic and foreign policies of all the nations. I am inclined to believe this. He is said to be responsible for ethnic cleansing wars, and all our covert operations in other countries, pitting one ethnic group against another, using the whole Jesuit order for his ends.

http://www.vaticanassassins.org/

It would seem then that the harlot on the seven hills (Rome) would have a much deeper meaning in the scheme of things

If that is the case, then it would make sense that he will use the character of the Mahdi for the same agenda. I wonder if it is possible that the Mahdi will be the AntiChrist and the apostate pope the false prophet, bringing all religions into one and somehow convincing the Jews to accept him.

Anyone have suggestions for me on how this black pope fits into things, and whether or not this information is reliable? And if he also has control of the kings of the East, China, etc.?

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/3224498/9104595

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hGWZcOUcjE